Ten Years Later...
burning up Detroit...
Robert Plant- vocals
Robbie Blunt- guitar
Jezz Woodroffe- keyboards
Bob Mayo- keyboards
Paul Martinez- bass
Phil Collins- drums
Joe Louis Arena
Detroit, Mich. U.S.A.
September 3, 1983
recorded by statsfax
performance quality: A or very close to, a very strong performance
recording quality: B (it's clean, just not high fidelity mikes and a
very loud excited crowd. Not overbearing in the recording but very much there)
source: 1st generation audience tape (from master recorded by statsfax).
Same source tape as the first posting of this tape recording, but
this one is from a new transfer using a speed adjusted deck to fix
the pitch which was quite slow in the previous posting.
lineage: unknown deck and mikes (probably auto-levelling with built in stereo mikes) >
Maxell XLII master cassettes > copy (same) >
soundforge 4.5 (WAV) > FLAC > torrent. first posted in 2008.
reseeded in 2009 from speed adjusted transfer, with sb's aligned.
reseeded in 2010.
runtime: 114:16
setlist: disc 1: 56:59 with tracks 1-8
49:23 with tracks 1-7
1: in the mood 9:12
2: pledge pin 5:15
3: messin' with the mekon 6:18
4: worse than Detroit 7:22
5: moonlight in Samosa 4:36
6: fat lip > 6:11 (tape flip, the transition cuts slightly)
7: through with the two step 10:26
8: other arms 7:35
disc 2: 57:17 with tracks 9-16
64:52 with tracks 8-16
9: horizontal departure > lively up yourself 7:36
10: reckless love 8:27
11: band introductions 1:29
12: slow dancer 8:33
13: like I've never been gone 10:11 (tape flip splice just before song starts)
14: big log 6:58
15: burning down one side 6:05
16: stranger here than over there 7:55
note: sequentially the best place to start disc 2 is track 8, but for those who
like their disc sets evenly balanced for time, track 7 would be where you want
to start yours.
comments:
I posted this recording once before and one of the comments in it pointed out
that the pitch sounded slow. I went and checked some of it out and sure enough
the pitch sounded punchy to me too. So rather than re-convert the FLAC files
from the 1st post (and give this thing a lineage longer than a donkeytail) I decided
to do a NT (new transfer) from the 1st gen. cassettes. glasnostrd19 doesn't like those
words too often, one transfer should do the job, but it didn't do the job last time
(with a 2.5 cent speed pitch adjust using soundforge.) so I tried the 25 cent jump
(that's Mike Lowell's number, also Mark Texiera's if you're a Yankee rooter) no more messing
with MEEK speed alterations for this recording) and it sounded alot more like this should
sound, but still not like it should sound. Too much file alteration, by the time it sounded
close to right the 2nd transfer files were a mess, so a rare third transfer was needed using a
Nak. 300 for the speed adjust this time, and hopefully this time it sounds like it should.
there's quite a bit of cheering (this cannot be avoided at a Plant show w/o high end directional
mikes) but not alot of loud clapping and while not a "you are there" production, it's pretty
close to one and the next best thing now. A you're almost there production (which is better
than a you're sortathere, and alot better than a wish you were there production.) I've heard
more than my share of offspeed Plant/Zeppelin recordings, and am sorry that the correct repair
was not done before posting this my first time. I'm not certain that it's perfect even this time
but it sounds alot better to my ears. I tried a few different adjusts before settling on
this one because my first post of this show had Robert sounding like he was on Darvon
(alot of it) and the band sounding flat. that's just not right. this doesn't happen often
with my posts, but every once in a while it does, and if I can fix it, I do. speed adjusting
is still a bit of a work in progress for me but I'm getting there. I think it sounds
considerably better this time, even though it's from the exact same 1st gen. source tape.
It must sound better this time. I didn't enjoy listening to the 1st version I did of this,
glad it fell off the tracker so now I can post one that I can enjoy listening to in time for
its anniversary (better than a 26th anniv. offspeed reseed).
comments from original post:
this was early in the 1st solo Planty U.S. tour, Robert says it's the 5th
show they've done, (he was guessing) so things are as fresh in this show as
the smell of Christmas is this time of year (mid- December.) I had to speed
this 1st gen. tape copy up by 2.5 cents (using soundforge pitch adjust) because
it sounded just a bit slow. I think it sounds like it should now, not quite
as good as the Worcester show of 3 days after this (partly because no far post,
yet) but still a nice show, the slow dancer is rather short in this show but
the taper did a fine job avoiding cuttage. All the plant 83 shows I've heard
(that's 2) have a cut in the fap lip > through with the two step transition,
this one is barely even noticable after splicing. this is an example of a
nondigitized tape being left off the upload table because I didn't think it
sounded very good, then deciding does this plant show have a far post too?
(as Worcester did) and finding out by digitizing and deciding this is postable,
(even though they didn't play far post in this show) just needed some minor
splicing and speed adjusting work so Robert wouldn't sound hung over... He
doesn't sound hung over at all, his motor was runnin' fine in Detroit, it's
definitely a Zeppy/Planty/Pagey kind of city. the crowd was in the mood and
it was a nice night. I like this material alot, almost all of it is from the
Principle of Moments and Pictures at Eleven albums, Robert's 1st 2 solo studio
releases. This is the "zeppiest" Plant sounding tour (imho) since he left Led
Zeppelin in 1980. I don't know what was used to record this, maybe a Sony 310
Walkman or something comparable. It's not high end, but it's a good clean recording,
and maybe not quite as loud a crowd as in the Worcester one. You can hear them,
but the music is not drowned out by them.
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