This is a tagged version of shnid: 28740
Grateful Dead
10-10-80
Warfield Theatre
San Francisco, CA
gd80-10-10.mtx.chappell.sb3.28740.sbeok.flac16
Sick Bits Vol. 3
Source: Matrix (SBD/AUD mixdown):
SBD:
Acoustic: SBD>MR>PCM>DAT>CDR>EAC>SHN
Electric: MSR>C>C>DAT>WAV>SHN (C>DAT Conversion by Cousinit)
AUD:
Taper: Most probably Bob Menke
Location: Balcony, Center
Source: Nakamichi CM700 Mics (3)>Mixer>Sony D-5
Remaster: 1st Gen. Cassette>JVC TD-W309 (w/pitch correction)>
Tascam DA-20mkII>Tascam CD-RW700
Conversion: CDR > EAC (secure) > Cool Edit (minor clean up) >
cdwav (retracking) > mkwact > shn (seekable)
Remastering and pitch correction by Douglas Ferguson
Shn Conversion by mvernon54@attbi.com
[complete text files for each source appended at end]
Transfer/Editing:
Both sources were snh files downloaded from LMA and converted to
WAV > Vegas 5 > WAV > CD Wave (tracking) > FLAC 16 (FLAC Frontend level 8)
Matrixed by Chris Chappell
ScarFire@liquidcity.com
3/22/05
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--Set 1-- (Acoustic)
101-d1t01 - On the Road Again
102-d1t02 - It Must Have Been the Roses
103-d1t03 - Monkey & the Engineer
104-d1t04 - Jack-A-Roe
105-d1t05 - Dark Hollow
106-d1t06 - To Lay Me Down
107-d1t07 - Heaven Help the Fool
108-d1t08 - Bird Song
109-d1t09 - Ripple
--Set 2-- (Electric)
201-d1t10 - Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloo ->
202-d1t11 - Franklin's Tower
203-d1t12 - Me & My Uncle ->
204-d1t13 - Big River
205-d2t01 - Candyman
206-d2t02 - Beat It on Down the Line
207-d2t03 - Row Jimmy
208-d2t04 - New Minglewood Blues
209-d2t05 - Althea
210-d2t06 - Jack Straw
--Set 3--
301-d2t07 - Scarlet Begonias ->
302-d2t08 - Fire on The Mountain
303-d2t09 - Samson & Delilah
304-d2t10 - Big Railroad Blues
305-d3t01 - Estimated Prophet ->
306-d3t02 - Eyes of the World ->
307-d3t03 - Drums ->
308-d3t04 - Space ->
309-d3t05 - Truckin' ->
310-d3t06 - Nobody's Fault jam ->
311-d3t07 - Black Peter ->
312-d3t08 - Around & Around ->
313-d3t09 - The // Promised Land
--Encore--
314-d3t10 - U.S. Blues
Total Times:
Disc 1 [75:37]
Disc 2 [74:30]
Disc 3 [73:43]
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General Notes:
Given the multiple sources available on the Llama, I put the effort into
editing a matrix of this often overlooked gem of the Warfield run from
the Dead Set and Dead Reckoning live session recordings in the fall of '80.
There may be better overall played shows from other nights at the Warfield
and also their Radio City counterparts (don't forget the Saenger in NOLA),
but my motivation here was the best versions of Althea and Jack Straw that
I have heard, not to mention an excellent Scarlet>Fire. The Jack-a-roe is
the version on Dead Reckoning (aka For The Faithful), and the quality of
the acoustic set SBD is very crisp, probably close to the multi-tracks.
The electric SBD is not as nice, but when coupled with the AUD, the show
really comes to life. The electric SBD is also plagued by many holes, the
worst being that there is no SBD for most of Truckin' and then through the
rest of the show. All things equal, Althea, Jack Straw, Scarlet > Fire are
completely sick, and worth the matrixed effort, not to mention it was fun
doing an acoustic set too - the audience element is cool; and even though
it's a balcony recording, the Warfield is small enough that the intimacy
is still present and desirable.
Timeline/Tracking Notes:
Not much music is missing from the AUD, but the SBD lacks good coverage,
except for the upgraded acoustic set which has more in between song tuning.
The transition between all three discs can be put together seemlessly. The
show tracks well for 3 discs (2 of them 80 min. discs), and even though
it's a 3 set show, I felt it important to keep it to 3 discs. This way
the end of the second set and the beginning of the third set are on disc 2,
and that's where the nuggets are anyway.
Editing Notes:
- Pitch
Both sources were pitched differently, the SBD being the sharpest,
and the AUD being the flatest. I used the SBD as my master timeline
and pitch referenced the AUD to it. The AUD on average had to be pitched
up about .28 (28 cents) to achieve pitch correction - 1.00 being
100 cents which is a semitone. However, this pitch differential did
fluctuate throughout the show, and was especially tough in Row Jimmy as
the reels on the SBD were running out. Big RXR Blues is funky too.
I did not reference A=440 as I did not desire to pitch adjust the SBD.
It is very close though to A=440, albeit a little sharp.
- Synch
Because of the speed fluctuation within a given source, multiple edits
were performed to keep the sources synched. Because the SBD was my
master pitch and time ref, the AUD was synched to the SBD (too many
edits to list).
- Sonic Quality/Matrix ratio
I did choose to employ a slight amount of limiting to the SBD (Waves L2)
to give it a slight amount of punch and presence. For the electric SBD
source I had to employ some noise reduction as the hiss is a little much
and takes away from the matrix sonically. Waves X-Noise was used to
accomplish this task, in which I used the "learn" function which isolated
the hiss through frequency spectrum analysis and drew an appropriate graph
for EQ. I was then able to solo just the noise being "reduced" and found
that almost no music was being lost, thus an optimum result. Conceptually,
all I was trying to do here is to add some dimension to the SBD, which is
pretty dry but very crisp, by using the ambience of the AUD. The result
is a lively but clear recording, hopefully close to how it sounded at
the show. If I had to guess the SBD/AUD ratio would be somewhere between
3:1 and 4:1, leaning more towards the 4:1 end of things.
- Edits
The following are places where the SBD and AUD had holes or incomplete
coverage in reference to the final matrix timeline. I also edited out
reel pauses from the SBD where appropriate (like places where the AUD
is the only source because the SBD has been paused) to provide an
enjoyable listening experience. I left them in where the SBD was the
only source (like the beginning of Estimated).
SBD:
d1t01 (3:01 - 3:12) - missing (crowd)
d1t01 (3:21 - 3:25) - missing (crowd)
d1t02 (5:38 - 5:54) - missing (crowd)
d1t03 (2:36 - 2:58) - missing (crowd)
d1t04 (4:06 - 4:35) - missing (crowd)
d1t05 (3:31 - 3:46) - missing (crowd)
d1t06 (8:39 - 8:57) - missing (crowd)
d1t07 (6:06 - 6:25) - missing (crowd)
d1t08>9 (8:01 - 0:01) - missing (crowd)
d1t10 (0:00 - 0:03) - missing (crowd)
d1t11 (8:36 - 9:19) - missing (crowd)
d1t13 (5:29 - 5:44) - missing (crowd)
d2t01 (7:08 - 7:19) - missing (crowd)
d2t02 (3:07 - 3:27) - missing (crowd)
d2t03 (6:53 - 10:35) - missing
d2t04 (0:00 - 2:16) - missing
d2t04 (6:46 - 6:51) - missing (last chord)
d2t04 (7:12 - 7:34) - missing (crowd)
d2t06 (6:10 - 6:16) - missing (crowd)
d2t08 (9:42 - 9:57) - missing (crowd)
d2t09 (0:00 - 0:15) - missing
d2t09 (6:53 - 7:46) - missing
d3t05 (1:15 - 7:53) - missing
d3t06 (0:00 - 10:12) - missing all
d3t07 (0:00 - 3:56) - missing all
d3t08 (0:00 - 4:35) - missing all
d3t09 (0:00 - 5:50) - missing all
AUD:
d1t09 (2:29 - 3:10) - missing
d2t05 (0:00 - 0:08) - missing (crowd)
d2t07 (0:00 - 0:22) - missing
d3t01 (0:00 - 1:28) - missing
d3t03 (9:14 - 9:28) - missing (tape flip?)
d3t06 (10:09) - eliminated about 2 seconds of redundant material
d3t08 (0:33) - sewed hole from cut
Note that all of the missing elements from the SBD in set 1 are just
crowd segments, while the electric SBD has some music missing.
The balcony AUD has good coverage throughout the show.
Here's the list (pasted from the SBD source notes) of music missing in
the SBD source (meaning no matrix,only Audience for these prtions):
Last 3:42 of Row Jimmy
First 2:16 of Minglewood
Last :54 of Samson & Delilah
From 1:08 of Truckin through the rest of the show
- Thank Yous (I know none of these people but they deserve recognition)
Thanks to Joe Masino for the seed discs for the acoustic SBD, Tommy Brame
for checking SBs with shntool, and Darryl Hinko for the EAC/SHN conversion.
Thanks to Cousinit for transfering the electric SBD casette master to DAT,
(seeded by?). Thanks to most likely Bob Menke for recording the AUD source,
and Douglas Ferguson for remastering and pitch correction,and Matt Vernon
for the shn conversion. Thanks to Jonathan Aizen for uploading both
sources to the Llama.
Enjoy!
-Chappy
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Original acoustic SBD source text file:
Grateful Dead
Warfield Theatre
San Francisco, CA
October 10, 1980
SBD>MR>PCM>DAT>CDR>EAC>SHN
1st Set
01. On The Road Again
02. Must Have Been The Roses
03. Monkey And The Engineer
04. Jack A Roe
05. Dark Hollow
06. To Lay Me Down
07. Heaven Help The Fool
08. Bird Song
09. Ripple
Notes-
-t09 (Ripple); 3 d/o's in the first :01
This new seed does not have the problems in Dark Hollow like the
previous seed does.
This seed also has more between song tuning for the completists out
there. The set actually opens up with Bob Weir saying "We're the warm
up band" Also the squeeks between songs are still present in this one.
They were explained to me as being the reels getting back up to speed
when they were turned back on. Seems reasonable.
EAC/SHN by Darryl Hinko (flyerfanatic)
any problems contact me at:
flyerfanatic2817@yahoo.com
Thanks to Joe Masino for the seed discs.
Thanks to Tommy Brame for checking SBs with shntool.
Brought to you from The Grateful Dead SHN Traders Group
Enjoy!
Original electric SBD source text file:
Grateful Dead
Warfield Theatre
San Francisco, CA
10/10/80
Source: MSR>C>C>DAT>WAV>SHN
C>DAT Conversion by Cousinit
Patch Source: Nakamichi CM700 Mics (3)>Mixer>Sony D-5
Remaster: 1st Gen. Cassette>JVC TD-W309 (w/pitch correction)>Tascam DA-20mkII>Tascam CD-RW700
Disk 1
Electric Set I
01. Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloo>
02. Franklin's Tower
03. Me And My Uncle>
04. Big River
05. Candyman
06. Beat It On Down The Line
07. Row Jimmy
08. New Minglewood Blues
09. Althea .
10. Jack Straw
Disk 2
Electric Set II
01. Scarlet Begonias>
02. Fire On The Mountain
03. Samson And Delilah
14. Big Railroad Blues
Disk 3
Electric Set II cont.
01. Estimated Prophet>
02. Eyes Of The World>
03. Drums>
04. Space>
05. Truckin'>
06. Black Peter>
07. Around And Around>
08. The // Promised Land
Encore:
09. U.S. Blues
Notes:
Many Many Thanks to Sir Mick who provided me the AUD patch source.
Aud Patch Source Supplies:
Last 3:42 of Row Jimmy
First 2:16 of Minglewood
Last :54 of Samson & Delilah
From 1:08 of Truckin through the rest of the show
There is a periodic volume fluctuation in left channel in Truckin
Black Peter has a drop out near end ~10:11
Promised Land has a cut ~0:33Peter has a drop out near end ~10:11
Original AUD source text file:
BAND Grateful Dead
VENUE Warfield Theatre
CITY San Francisco
STATE CA
DATE 10/10/80
Taper: Most probably Bob Menke
Location: Balcony, Center
Source: Nakamichi CM700 Mics (3)>Mixer>Sony D-5
Remaster: 1st Gen. Cassette>JVC TD-W309 (w/pitch correction)>Tascam DA-20mkII>Tascam CD-RW700
Conversion: CDR > EAC (secure) > Cool Edit (minor clean up) > cdwav (retracking) > mkwact > shn (seekable)
Remastering and pitch correction by Douglas Ferguson
Shn Conversion by mvernon54@attbi.com
shntool confirms tracks cut on sector boundaries
Part of The Music Never Stopped Project - Thanks to Raoul Duke for the disks.
Disk 1 [75:11]
SET1 - Acoustic
01. On The Road Again %
02. It Must Have Been The Roses %
03. Monkey And The Engineer %
04. Jack A Roe %
05. Dark Hollow %
06. To Lay Me Down %
07. Heaven Help The Fool %
08. Bird Song ;
09. Ripple
SET2 - Electric
10. Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloo >
11. Franklin's Tower ;
12. Me And My Uncle >
13. Big River %
Disk 2 [76:00]
SET2 continued
01. Candyman % good
02. Beat It On Down The Line;
03. Row Jimmy %
04. New Minglewood Blues %
05. Althea ;
06. Jack Straw
SET3 - Electric
07. (fades in) Scarlet Begonias >
08. Fire On The Mountain %
09. Samson And Delilah ;
10. Big Railroad Blues ;
Disk 3 [72:00]
01. (fades in) Estimated Prophet >
02. Eyes Of The World >
03. Drums >
04. Space >
05. Truckin' >
06. Black Peter >
07. Around And Around >
08. The // Promised Land
ENCORE
09. U.S. Blues
notes
- BRR Blues has some volume fluctuations
- Eyes has a periodic volume fluctuation in left channel which resumes in Truckin
- Black Peter has a drop out near end ~10:11
- Promised Land has a cut ~0:33