This includes a combination of three sources to complement Michael's seed (DIME torrent #88419) of
Charles Lloyd Quartet, Paris 11 June 1967
There are two folders of Source BI+BII and Source C respectively, described in the info file.
At the time I mentioned there's other material out claimed to be Paris June 11, 1967.
What you find here is the complete alternate material. Together the sources possibly contains two more or less complete concerts, of Paris at June the 11, and at Montreux June 18th.
Which track belongs where is very unclear it seems. But anyway you have it all, with this and Michael's seed, called Source A in the info file.
What you have here is
Sources B (from two rare boots desc. as Paris 67-0611 (BI) and Montreux 67-0618 (BII)) A-
BI1. Days and night of waiting 6:40
BI2. Lady Gabor 12:25
BI3. Sweet Georgia Bright 32:20
BII4. Love Ship 9:31
BII5. Forest Flower 13:20 INC
Source C denoted as SBD, Paris 67-0611 A
C1. A Different Journey 10:01
C2. One for Joan aka Piercing the Veil 16:06
C3. Love Ship/Tribal Dance 17:41
C4. ??? [collective impro?] INC 1:57
C5. Tagore 13:09
C6. How Can I Tell You / unknown (standard?) 20:54
C7. Days and Nights of Waiting (Keith Jarrett) 6:36
Source B is extracted by EAC from audio discs. Source C is the original flacs.
Johan
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Michael's seed in March 2006 at DIME had
Torrent #88419 Charles Lloyd French Radio Broadcast Salle Pleyel 6/11/67
Charles Lloyd Quarter
French Radio Broadcast
Live at Salle Pleyel June 11, 1967
Charles Lloyd - Tenor Saxophone and Flute
Keith Jarrett - Piano and Soprano Saxophone
Ron McClure - Bass
Jack DeJohnette - Drums
Tracks:
1 Announcer
2 Island Blues
3 Announcer
4 Days and Nights Waiting
5 Announcer
6 Announcer
7 Sweet Georgia Bright
8 Announcer
9 Twin Pearls
10 Announcer
11 Announcer
12 Lady Gabor
13 Announcer
tt 56:57
This is a real good audio quality radio broadcast of the classic Charles Lloyd Quartet with Keith Jarrett and Jack DeJohnette.
All the info as to tracks titles, etc. is in the info file.
Enjoy!!!!!!!
Size 347.21 MB (364,077,145 bytes)
Upped by michaelmee
Num files 14 files
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Source C from STG
http://www.sharingthegroove.org/msgboard/showthread.php?s=&threadid=72365
Charles Lloyd
Paris
6/11/67
FM
Quality A/A-
544MB
Charles Lloyd (s)
Ron McClure (b)
Keith Jarrett (p)
Jack DeJohnette (d)
Any help with the tracklist is greatly appreciated, I am not familiar enough to take an educated guess in this case. There may have been a bootleg of this, though I can't find much evidence.
Disc 1:
Track1 ? 10:01
Track2 ? 16:06
Track3 ? 17:41
Disc 2:
Track1 ? (inc.) 1:57
Track2 ? 13:09
Track3 ? 20:54
Track4 ? 6:36
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TOTAL 86:27
872.67 MB (totals for 7 files)
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Attachment: charled_lloyd_paris_67.flac.torrent
This has been downloaded 157 time(s).
guyberger wrote wayback then:
a spectacular gig, better than almost anything else I've heard by this group. They play a lot more outside than on some of the official recordings. Charles's playing with this band was occasionally erratic but he's really strong and upfront here.
The setlist I've put together:
1. A Different Journey (Charles Lloyd) [Appears on the Chico Hamilton album of the same title]
2. One for Joan aka Piercing the Veil (Charles Lloyd) [Appears on one or two CH albums, maybe one of Charles's albums from the 60s, and also 1994's "All My Relations"]
3. Karma (not sure about this one?) / Tribal Dance [TD has a really intense solo by Keith.]
1. ??? [I think it's just a brief collective improvisation]
2. Tagore [an exotic sounding bossa nova with Keith strumming the keys]
3. How Can I Tell You / unknown (standard?) [Anybody recognize the second tune? The first shows up on a 60s CH album as well as Charles's album "Canto"]
4. Days and Nights of Waiting (Keith Jarrett)
Johan wrote then:
Sonic to me suggests possibly TV broadcast, not radio broadcast.
Note that the Italian bootleg In Concert - Parigi 1967 [Jazz Collection JCD03 1994] has stuff not included here. The JCD03 has two tracks identical to two of the four tracks from Montreux June 18, 1967 on the Florest Flower bootleg.
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Previous research
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Source A: Maison l'ORTF, Paris, June 11, 1967
A2 Island Blues
A4 Days and Nights Waiting = C7
A7 Sweet Georgia Bright
A9 Twin Pearls KJ ss
A12 Lady Gabor fl = B2
Source BI: Parigi 1967, date unk, boot
B1. Days and night of waiting 6:40 not eq A4
B2. Lady Gabor 12:25 = A12 fl
B3. Sweet Georgia Bright 32:20 free version sonic intimate not eq A7
Source BII: Montreux 18 Jun Forest Flower boot [I include just B6-7 here, the others are identical to B1-2]
B4. Days and Nights waiting 6:34
B5. Lady Gabor 11:35
B6. Love Ship 9:31
B7. Forest Flower 13:20 INC
Source C: Paris 11 Jun - STG seed
C1. A Different Journey 10:01 fl
C2. One for Joan aka Piercing the Veil 16:06
C3. Love Ship [called Karma] / Tribal Dance 17:41 diff from b4
C4. ??? [I think it's just a brief collective improvisation] INC 1:57 fl
C5. Tagore 13:09 fl
C6. How Can I Tell You / unknown (standard?) 20:54
C7. Days and Nights of Waiting (Keith Jarrett) 6:36 =A4
OK - this raises many questions.
On Michaelmee (2006):
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First: The seed A is evidently put together from many different broadcasts. I hear the voice of Xavier P - and other announcers - as rec'd at different times.
NOTE: At the end of the first segment XP states this is rec'd at
Maison l'ORTF (ORTF was the predecessor of Radio France).
A bit later, but on another fragment, he states the date June 11, 1967, as does another announcer later (my French lets me barely catch this, and not much more). So this stuff is not necessarily from the same concert. Many questions, few definite answers.
Call this Source A.
On Priv. comm (2003) and STG (2002?)
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There are three diff. sources for alternative tracks:
* Sources BI & BII: two rare Italian (?) bootlegs - Parigi 1967 (BI: three trs) and Forest Flower (BII: this latter is a mix from several concerts. Four trs of BII are descr'd as Montreux June 18).
Two trs of these are identical btw the two boots - at least on the copies some kind soul shared with me a long time ago (see below).
* Source C: an STG seed a long time ago, desc. as Paris, 6/11/67 wiht unknown lineage but said to be originating with an FM brdcst. 7 trs.
Comparative analysis: Sources BI & BII
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Sonically the two boots BI & BII are a bit different - BI seems to be from an LW RB - while the FF one varies. Both indicate an intimate locality, it MAY be the same, but need not be.
However, DNWaiting and Lady G are the same performances (the BII - Forest Flower - Lady Gabor has about 25 sec of Keith's solo edited out):
- BI:DNW = BII:DNW
- BI:LG = BII:LG
The total of five different tracks include a remarkable "out" version of Sweet Georgia Bright (BI)
BUT:
* Lady Gabor on A - tr 12 - is the same as Lady Gabor of the Parigi boot BI. Or,
- A:LG = BI:LG, and thus = BII:LG
OTH:
* The A:DNW and BI:DNW are different!
- A:DNW n.e. BI:DNW (and thus by transitivity A:DNW n.e. BII:DNW)
Comparative analysis: Source C
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That leaves us with the STG seed:
* C: Love Ship is different from the same on the FF boot - BII: Love Ship
- C:LShip n.e. BII:LShip
* C: DNW is the same as the recent seed A: DNW
- C:DNW = A:DNW
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Conclusions & future research needs
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So we have
15 different tracks:
A2 Island Blues 1:58 INC
A7 Sweet Georgia Bright 25:22
A9 Twin Pearls 8:17 NOTE: KJ ss
BI1. Days and night of waiting 6:40
BI2. Lady Gabor 12:25 ~= A12
BI3. Sweet Georgia Bright 32:20
BII4. Love Ship 9:31
BII5. Forest Flower 13:20 INC
C1. A Different Journey 10:01
C2. One for Joan aka Piercing the Veil 16:06
C3. Love Ship/Tribal Dance 17:41
C4. ??? [collective impro?] INC 1:57
C5. Tagore 13:09
C6. How Can I Tell You / unknown (standard?) 20:54
C7. Days and Nights of Waiting (Keith Jarrett) 6:36 ~=A4
At least two dates:
* June 11 & 18, 1967 - Any missing dates?
At least two venues/cities
* Paris & Montreux, missing cities/venues?
Several source tapes,
*maybe A was a kind of "residual" Charles Lloyd tape?
MANY questions. - and LOTS of missing info
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However, NOTE that
* every track appear just once or twice, never thrice (:-) )
- SGB 2
- DNW 2
- LShip 2
- all other tracks 1
-> TWO, not THREE concerts?
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